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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That's me. I am part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I'm here at Vox Media Headquarters in New York City.

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This is a very exciting crossover episode of Recode Media.

I'm sitting here with Ezra Klein, founder of Vox.com. What's your current

title, Ezra? Editor at large. Editor at large, polymath. You are... That's not actually in my title.

TV guy. Now a Netflix guy. Writing a book guy. Fighting for thousands of words with other

podcast posts, via email guy. We'll talk about all that. But we're talking today specifically about the Netflix show. What's the name of the Netflix show? Explained. It's just called Explained. It's just called Explained. I should know some of this. I'm a Vox Media employee. This is some solid research you've done. Yeah, I did some Googling. Title? I watch some episodes. They're great. So this is, in your

words, tell me what the show is. So we came up with the idea for this show a couple of years back.

And when we launched Vox, there were a couple of ideas behind the whole operation, I would say.

And one of the big ones was that the underlying technology on which we were doing journalism had changed. It had changed in a bunch of ways, but one of the ways it had changed is it had become persistent. So, you know, when you're writing in a newspaper or you're showing something on cable news, one of the fundamental qualities of that is it's going to go away. Right. People can't keep the newspaper in their house forever. They run out of room. It gets moldy.

They breathe in spores. It gets sick. Cable news, after something airs, it's gone. Like, where do you find it?

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