Ezra Klein: Don’t Call It A Coup — Yet

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.8 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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John is joined by New York Times columnist, podcaster, and idea merchant extraodinaire Ezra Klein to chop up his latest conversation-sparking Times essay “Don’t Believe Him” about Donald Trump's initial blizzard of executive actions, grifts, and power grabs. Ezra argues that, although Trump's flurry legal and constitutional trespasses has thrust us into dangerous new territory and poses risks to the country great and small, his behavior is more a reflection of political weakness than strength. Ezra also weighs in on whether Elon Musk is in fact more dangerous than Trump, the courts will continue to hold line for the rule of law, and Chuck Schumer is really the best possible face of the Democratic opposition. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:26.8	Aloha, namaste, and welcome Tim Politick with John Heilman, a puck and Odyssey joint,
0:31.8	featuring lively in-depth and sometimes ever so slightly profane conversations with the people who roam the corridors of power
0:39.0	and influence in America, weaving the warp and wharf of our politics and culture.
0:44.8	As we come to the end of the third week, yes, just the third week.
0:51.4	Seems a lot longer.
0:53.7	The third week of Donald Trump's second term in office.
0:57.2	The hits just keep on coming.
1:00.0	And I do mean hits.
1:02.5	From the shuddering of USAID to the staggering, unprecedented, almost certainly
1:08.5	illegal incursion into the federal government's payment systems by Elon Trump and his
1:15.7	zip drive toting mid-20s Mondo dorks to Donald Trump's
1:21.6	to Donald Trump's stunning truly stunning declaration that the U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job
1:30.6	with it too. We'll own it. Which caused allies and adversaries alike around the world to lose
1:36.4	their freaking minds. To help us make sense of all of this, we have New York Times columnist
1:43.2	podcaster and idea merchant extraordinaire,
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