Ezra Klein: As impeachment escalates, Trump will become more 'corrosive to democracy'

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🗓️ 25 October 2019

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Ezra Klein says people think about impeachment all wrong. It doesn't have to be a "traumatic" worst case scenario, he says: "We fire people for poor performance in most jobs. It seems that in the most important job, in arguably the entire world, we should be able to do the same thing." Klein, the editor-at-large of Vox Media, talks with Brian Stelter about his new podcast, "Impeachment, Explained," and the need to apply historical context to the daily drama. Klein also analyzes Trump's ability to "control coverage" based on his understanding that that "new plus outrageous equals newsworthy." He all calls out right-wing claims that the impeachment process is a coup, calling the claims "shameful."To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Impeachment. What is it good for? Well, maybe for a lot of things actually. Maybe impeachment should be normalized.
0:10.0	I'm Brian Stelter and this is the Reliable Sources Podcast. It is our weekly chance to go more in-depth
0:16.3	with media leaders and newsmakers talking about how the news is made and how the media world works.
0:22.2	Right now, of course, so much attention in the media world is focused on the Democratic
0:26.3	impeachment inquiry against President Trump.
0:29.3	There are new revelations virtually every hour of every day, and there's a consistent tone, a theme to the rhetoric about impeachment
0:38.0	that says this is a trauma, this is a painful process for the country. This is a scar that will be formed. But is it really? Should it be?
0:51.0	Back in January of 2018, Ezra Klein wrote a piece for Vox titled The Case for Normalizing Impeachment.
0:59.2	The article has new found residents right now, and Klein is hosting a new podcast all about the impeachment
1:06.0	process. It is called impeachment explained. So I suppose this is going to be a podcast
1:11.9	about impeachment podcasts.
1:14.0	Let me bring Azra in now.
1:15.7	He's joining me from San Francisco.
1:17.0	Azra, great to see you.
1:19.0	Great to be here.
1:20.0	Let's talk about the boon in impeachment-related media a little bit later,
1:24.0	but let's get to the heart of the first episode of your new series,
1:27.4	which was talking about what high crimes and misdemeanors actually means,
1:32.4	and how impeachment has actually been used in the past.
1:36.0	But when you say there's a case for normalizing impeachment, what is the case?
1:40.0	Yeah, so let me cut two things here.
1:42.0	So in 2017, as you mentioned, I wrote this piece on normalizing impeachment.
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