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The Bulwark Podcast

Ezra Klein: A Path to Defeat

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Top Democrats say they don't see a way for Biden to win, and some are resigning themselves to being the resistance against Trump, despite the threat he poses to our democracy. Batten down the hatches—this interview is a tough listen. Ezra Klein joins Tim Miller.

show notes
Ezra's piece from February

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey y'all, late yesterday I recorded a conversation with Ezra Klein that was I think very important. It was

0:07.2

Enraging at times I have to admit my blood pressure skyrocketed despite his dulcet tones and calm voice so prepare

0:16.5

yourself for that but a few things that happen in the news since then I just want

0:20.7

to mention on the Democratic side of the aisle Mikey Cheryl a

0:24.4

Congresswoman out of New Jersey I'm a big fan of came out and said that she

0:29.7

knows President Biden cares deeply about the future of the country. That's why she's asking that he declares

0:34.2

that he won't run for re-election.

0:36.3

Very explicit about that.

0:37.7

Ritchie Torres, who we had on the pot a couple weeks ago,

0:40.4

offered maybe a less direct statement than Cheryl's but one that strongly implied the same.

0:45.6

Nancy Pelosi on Morning Joe this morning was super interesting.

0:48.8

She said, it's up to the president to decide if he's going to run.

0:51.6

We're all encouraging him to make that

0:52.8

decision because time is running short. She was then asked, do you want him to run?

0:57.0

And then she said, I wanted to do whatever he decides to do. And that's the way it is.

1:01.2

Whatever he decides we go with, and then she follows up,

1:05.0

let's just hold off whatever you're thinking, either tell somebody privately,

1:09.0

but you don't have to put that out on the table until we see how we go this week. Not exactly a ringing

1:13.7

endorsement there from the speaker of Maritus. Both Biden and Trump spoke last

1:19.0

night, watched Bolle Biden at the NATO Summit. He was pretty good.

1:22.8

I like the substance of the remarks are good.

1:24.5

I encourage you to listen to them.

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