This is the Tom Hartman program.

On the line with us is Richard Wiles, the executive director of the Center for Climate Integrity,

the website climateintegrity.org, the Twitter handle climate costs, C-O-S-T-S, and Richard,

this remarkable admission by this Exxon mobile lobbyist.

Did we aggressively fight against some of the science?

Yes, did we join some of these shadowy groups to work against some of the early efforts?

Yes, that's true, but we were looking out for our investments, our shareholders.

Tell me about this.

Well, yeah, thanks Tom, thanks for having me on.

This is just another example of Exxon, you know, lying about their, you know, what they're really doing.

I mean, this is just another example of the fact that they've known that their products were going to cause climate change for four years.

They've been masterminding this deception campaign for many decades, multi-hundred million dollar campaign.

And now they got caught on tape basically saying, oh, yeah, you know, this whole thing about us supporting a carbon tax.

Well, we're just doing that because we know it won't pass, you know, and did we lie?

Yeah, we lied a little bit, you know, did we pay for front groups to distort the science?

Yeah, we did that, but it's not illegal.

So, yeah, I mean, it's just outed them for what many have been saying they've been doing all law and what the basis of about 25 different lawsuits against the company

for doing exactly that line about their role in causing climate change.

And it seems to be having an impact.

We had a caller call up and say, well, let me tell you about this YouTube channel where they say that, you know, it was just as hot back in the 1930s as it is.

No, and it was quite, quite, quite, which is the, you know, one of the many BS lines that Exxon has been funding these front groups.

And by the way, they can do it with tax deductible money.

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