Twice a week, Van Leathen and Rachel Lindsay

dissect the biggest topics in black culture,

politics, and sports on their show Higher Learning.

They discuss the most important and timely conversations

while also frequently inviting guests on the podcast

and occasionally debating each other.

Check out Higher Learning on Spotify

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Dave, cold open question of the week.

All right.

Dave, what is the difference between me and you

if somebody tries to pull us over and take our car?

Oh my gosh, what depends on what state I'm in

because I can see.

Oh, sorry.

Uh, man, man, I hope there's not too much of a difference.

This is really when it really comes down to it, right?

Yeah, yeah.

There was a, there was a, they cheered pretty hard

for that gun line to kind of let you know where we were.

And we were talking to stuff.

Yeah, let's, let's, all right, let's do this.

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