Extreme measures
The Documentary Podcast
BBC
4.3 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 9 April 2020
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Can extremists be de-radicalised? For Assignment, Adrian Goldberg, hears from the ‘intervention providers’ in the United Kingdom tasked with turning offenders away from violence. Usman Khan was released from prison in 2018 for plotting a terror attack. He’d undertaken two de-radicalisation programmes designed to turn him away from violent extremism. Yet despite efforts to rehabilitate him, Khan launched an attack near London Bridge, in the capital, killing two people – one of them was Jack Merritt. It was the first of two violent attacks involving convicted extremists in the space of two months. So just how effective are these schemes designed to de-radicalise extremists? We hear from closely people involved in them. Some say offenders can cheat the system and convince the authorities they’ve changed their ways. A serving prisoner in a maximum security jail tells Adrian that convicted terrorists are ‘gaming’ the system by pretending to comply and he warns that non terrorist offenders are being dangerously radicalised.
Reporter: Adrian Goldberg Researcher: Luke Radcliff Producer, Helen Clifton Editor: Carl Johnston
(Photo: Jack Merritt courtesy of the Merritt family)
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| 0:00.0 | Well it was a normal day in the morning. |
| 0:03.0 | Jack lived at home. |
| 0:04.0 | We knew he was going to work. |
| 0:06.0 | We weren't really sure what he was doing that day. |
| 0:08.0 | So I had breakfast with him and then he left about half past seven, |
| 0:12.0 | gave him a kiss, said goodbye. |
| 0:14.6 | I went to work as normal. |
| 0:16.4 | Perfectly normal day, nothing unusual about it at all. |
| 0:19.8 | Unbeknownst to his father, Dave, |
| 0:21.9 | Jack Merrick was headed to London to a conference. |
| 0:25.2 | It was Friday, November the 29th last year, |
| 0:28.3 | a date which was to leave an indelible impression |
| 0:31.2 | on anyone who knew the 25 year old from Cambridge. |
| 0:34.3 | Coming on air a little bit early to bring you up to date with an incident that's happening |
| 0:38.0 | in central London at the moment. |
| 0:40.1 | This is five live. |
| 0:41.1 | Let me tell you what the metropolitan police have said just in the last few minutes. |
| 0:45.0 | They were called at two minutes to two this afternoon to a stabbing at a premise is near to |
| 0:49.6 | London Bridge. |
| 0:50.6 | I look at Twitter a couple of times a day, many for news. About 2 o'clock there was a story emerging |
| 0:57.9 | about something that was happening at London Bridge and I thought, oh no, you know, it's another terror attack because they obviously |
| 1:05.6 | been the big terror attack at London Bridge a couple of years before. |
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