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The Fox News Rundown

Extra: "When The Badge Becomes The Target"

The Fox News Rundown

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3.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

A House Homeland Security Committee hearing turned tense earlier this week as lawmakers clashed over the source and impact of violent rhetoric toward law enforcement. Democrats focused on the events of January 6th and the conduct of ICE agents during raids, while Republicans and union officials warned that rising threats, including last week’s fatal shooting of two National Guard soldiers in Washington, D.C., indicate that officers are facing unprecedented danger. They also highlighted how the rhetoric and the risk of violence are impacting police recruitment and retention. Colorado Congressman and former police officer Gabe Evans joins the Rundown’s Jessica Rosenthal following Wednesday’s hearing to discuss the challenges and dangers law enforcement is currently facing. Rep. Evans explained why he believes there are consequences to this rhetoric and how it's affecting recruitment, safety, and public trust. We often must cut interviews short during the week, but we thought you might like to hear the full interview. Today on Fox News Rundown Extra, we will share our entire interview with Colorado Congressman and former police officer Gabe Evans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Fox News Rundown Extra.

0:06.0

I'm Jessica Rosenthal.

0:08.0

This week we spoke with Colorado Republican Congressman Gabe Evans.

0:11.3

He was one of the final representatives to ask questions at a House Homeland Security Committee hearing called When Badges become targets, how anti-law enforcement rhetoric fuels violence against officers.

0:22.9

Evans was a cop in Colorado before he was a congressman, and he explained his own experience with violent rhetoric,

0:29.0

how it resulted in the death of a fellow officer in 2021. He also responded to Democrats who used

0:34.6

their time to focus on ICE arrests or accused the Trump administration

0:38.3

of cutting certain grant funding. The heads of law enforcement organizations testified at the

0:43.0

hearing that elected leadership calling cops and agents, Nazis, and Gestapo needs to stop,

0:48.9

that they're facing a recruitment problem that's about to worsen as retention issues mount.

0:53.9

Many officers are at retirement age.

0:56.3

The head of the Federal Law Enforcement Association said officers, deputies and agents are facing an

1:01.2

unprecedented threat landscape unlike anything he's ever seen. We often have to cut interviews down for time during the week, but thought you might like to hear this full interview.

1:09.3

Thank you for listening. Please follow the Weekday Rundown podcast if you don't already.

1:13.3

Now here's Colorado Republican Congressman Gabe Evans on the Fox News Rundown Extra.

1:22.3

It seemed like the witnesses, three of the four, heads of law enforcement agencies, were, I guess, a bit

1:30.8

taken aback by the tone of the hearing at times. I think it was a fraternal order of police,

1:37.1

President Patrick Yose, who was like point blank. We're not talking about officers being shot

1:41.3

and killed. What did you make of the hearing? You spoke towards the

1:44.9

end, so you got to listen to a lot of it. Yeah, I mean, the hearing was about when the badge

1:50.0

becomes the target. And unfortunately, that's something that I've personally experienced. And I

1:54.0

alluded to some of that in my comments in the hearing, both being a cop in the Denver metro area

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