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And the three wise men bearing gifts.

Broadcaster and author Raymond DeRoyo says they're really were wise men who visited Jesus,

but he wasn't a baby by the time they got there, and they were probably more than three.

His new Fox nation's special and kids' book are both called The Wise Men Who Found Christmas.

We talked too much about his research to get it all into the regular weekday podcast,

so it's all here for you now.

Thanks for listening.

Now Raymond DeRoyo on The Fox News Run Down Extra.

Raymond DeRoyo, best-selling author on New Kids' Book, The Wise Men Who Found Christmas,

The Fox Nation Special.

Raymond, good to meet you.

Great to see you, Chris.

Just starting with we three kings of Ori and R, other than the we and the of, there's

not much in there that's actually really accurate, right?

Only the Orient part.

You know, we three kings of Ori and R, and I always say no you aren't.

There were probably more than three of them, Chris, the Coptic Church, when you read those

first and second century documents, they say there were 60 wise men.

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