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The Fox News Rundown

Extra: The Alarming Gaps in America's Immigration Vetting System

The Fox News Rundown

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3.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

The Trump administration is ready to roll out new limits on asylum seekers, refugee processing, and even green card reviews after a suspected radicalized Afghan national was charged in the shooting of two National Guard members in Washington, D.C. President Trump and Homeland Security officials say the move is part of an effort to tighten vetting and shift the burden of proof for those already in the U.S., including refugees admitted during the Biden years. Ken Cuccinelli, former USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) director and current Senior Fellow for Homeland Security, joined host Jessica Rosenthal on the Rundown this past week to explain what these new rules mean for Afghan refugees and the other 19 travel ban countries. Cuccinelli described the vetting system as needing improvement, saying that certain migrants from certain countries cannot be effectively vetted and should not be allowed into America. And in some cases, if they’re already here, they should be deported. We often must cut interviews short during the week, but we thought you might like to hear the full interview. Today on Fox News Rundown Extra, we will share our entire interview with Ken Cuccinelli, former USCIS director. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Fox News Rundown Extra.

0:03.0

I'm Jessica Rosenthal.

0:08.0

This week we spoke with Ken Cucinelli, a senior fellow for Homeland Security and Immigration for the Center for Renewing America,

0:14.0

and also a former head of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services under the first Trump administration.

0:19.0

We talked about changes to rules for asylum seekers,

0:21.9

refugees, even those with green cards from certain countries following the shooting of two

0:26.4

National Guard soldiers in Washington, D.C. Specialist Sarah Bexstrom was killed. Staff Sergeant

0:31.8

Andrew Wolfe was in critical condition. The suspect, Romanoola Lackenwal, was an Afghan national

0:37.2

who worked with U.S. forces in Afghanistan.

0:39.9

He and his family were brought here in 2021 on humanitarian parole. The president and Homeland Security

0:45.4

Secretary then announced new rules. U.S. citizenship and immigration services has paused all

0:51.0

asylum decisions and suspended the processing of Afghan visas and special immigration

0:55.7

visas. They've paused green cards for people from 19 countries and are reviewing benefits

1:01.0

going to migrants from those 19 countries. The validity of work permits for asylum seekers

1:05.6

and refugees was cut to 18 months from five years. What will those changes mean for those who think they get to work and stay in the U.S.?

1:14.6

We often have to cut interviews down for time during the week but thought you might like to hear

1:17.5

this full interview.

1:18.8

Thanks for listening.

1:19.8

Please follow the Weekday Rundown podcast if you don't already.

1:22.7

Now here's former USCIS director Ken Cucinelli on the Fox News Rundown Extra.

1:41.3

I want to start. I'm going to kind of walk our listeners through sort of some of the changes we're seeing with regards to vetting and the process.

1:44.8

If you don't fully want to, you know, if you don't really want to answer something or you don't know the answer because you're not in it to that degree anymore, that's fine.

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