This is the Fox News Rundown Extra.

I'm Jessica Rosenthal.

This week we spoke with the co-founder of Echelon Insights, Patrick Ruffini, whose organization conducts political polling.

We talked about whether the polls are right and how they've changed since 2016, as well as how hard it is to reach certain voters now.

We talked about shifts in voter registration as well toward the GOP, but mostly toward unaffiliated.

And he gave us insights into critical swing districts and counties across the battleground states,

as he says he's keeping an eye on the areas in and around smaller cities.

We often have to cut interviews down for time during the week,

but thought you might like to hear this full interview.

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Now, here's Patrick Afini on the Fox News Rundown Extra.

Patrick, is it as close as polling into Gates?

I know everybody asked you that.

I think it's very close.

You know, team Trump can certainly point to some good data points over the last few days in a lot of the early voting data,

in the final voter registration data coming out of Pennsylvania.

A lot of the hard data coming out of the states, particularly the Sunbelt states,

point to potential turnout problems for Kamala Harris.

You have electorates in the Sunbelt states that are more Republican, as yes, Republicans are shifting to voting earlier this time.

That's part of it.

But you're also seeing lower turnout from black voters, which is historically is historically, um, a poor omen, um, for Democrats. Um,

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