This is the Fox News Rundown Extra.

I'm Jessica Rosenthal. This week we spoke with former acting director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, David Shedd, and former intelligence analyst, Andrew Badger.

They wrote a new book called The Great Heist, China's Epic Campaign to Steal America's Secrets.

We talk about what China's done to steal American IP or force American companies to even

abandon programs due to Chinese spies within their companies.

They then replicate our products or ideas and because rules and regulations only have to answer

to the Communist Party there, they can move fast, often much faster than we do.

Shed and Badger offer advice to any administration about

how to tackle the issue as the president negotiates over tariffs. President Trump's taken a bit of a

softer tone with the Chinese than he did in his first administration as he seeks to maintain

a supply of rare earth minerals. China dominates this space and we need them for our electric cars, smartphones,

medical equipment, and weaponry.

We often have to cut interviews down for time during the week, but thought you might like to hear this full interview.

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Now, here's David Shed and Andrew Badger on the Fox News Rundown Extra. At the top, just to start off for our listeners this conversation, what are you hoping people understand about this book?

I guess the thesis statement or pitch, if you will.

The reason that Andrew and I wrote this book is because we see a arc of Chinese theft of technology that has allowed China to,

at the cost of American enterprise, American intellectual property and know-how that goes with it,

to advance its interests in their defense sector, their economy at large, in a way that is totally

disproportionate from the investment that they would have made or are making in doing the sorts of

things that would build their economy organically. And they're doing this through the theft that we

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