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Survivor 46 is here and so is on fire, the only official survivor podcast and we have a twist this season.

The winner of Survivor 45, Diva Adaris will be joining us every week.

We're going behind the scenes of the biggest moments, the how and the why things happen and the strategy

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This week I spoke to Matthew Pottinger, the deputy national security advisor during the Trump administration and one of the first people inside the White House to sound the alarm about the coronavirus early last year.

Here's our full conversation.

Matt, thanks so much for making time for us.

I wonder what you think of the Biden administration's handling the pandemic so far.

Yeah, well, you know, the Biden administration was able to inherit a very strong vaccine

program in the form of Operation Warps Speed.

I'm wishing them the best.

We're all depending on the Biden administration's success

at containing this thing.

And, you know, I'm here today in part to do something that Marines are used to doing.

The military is a very good tradition of doing what we call a hot wash.

And all that is is that at the end of every patrol,

at the end of every mission,

we circle up and talk about all the mistakes that we made

in order to try to correct them and do better the next time.

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