Hey, it's Zach.

Before I get started, just want to let you know that we touch on some adult topics in this episode.

If you're listening with kids, you might want to review it first.

All right, on with the show.

Sometimes we interview really interesting people for this podcast who just don't end up making it into an episode.

Like this guy.

I love talking about emojis, so we got lots to talk about.

That's Eric Goldman.

I am a professor of law.

I'm associate dean for research, and I'm co-director of the High Tech Law Institute, and that's all at

Santa Clara University School of Law.

A couple weeks ago, we did an episode on emoji, you know, smiley faces, hearts, fire.

While I was doing research for that episode, I came across an incredible 2018 paper by Goldman,

titled Imoges and the Law.

The legal side of emoji didn't quite fit in with the rest of our episode.

But today, we're going to give Goldman the stage, because, as it turns out, lawyers and judges

have a lot to say on the subject.

The courts will play a role in terming the meaning of emoji.

That outcome's inevitable.

The question is whether they're doing it fairly.

For the Freakonomics Radio Network, this is the economics of everyday things.

I'm Zachary Crockett.

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