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Extra Bad Gays June 2025, The First: Weird Vibes Pride, Edmund White, and Bisexual Dilemmas (TRAILER)

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

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4.6842 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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This is just a trailer! For the full episode, join our community of Extra Bad Gays on Patreon or Apple Podcasts.  Weird Vibes Pride Month, nefarious nellies! What is this Pride Month's vibe? Who is its target audience? We're confused. How do we build power as queer movements hollowed out by corporate sponsorship appear to crumble? Then, we mourn the late, great Edmund White before turning to our now-standard Gaggony Guncles segment, in which a listener writes in with an exciting bisexual dilemma.

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0:00.0

I think it really is a symbol for what I'm calling weird vibes Pride Month, which is basically a Pride Month that feels to not have found its message in the face of this place that we are in the world.

0:11.9

It's a Pride Month that feels characterized by on the one hand, and we talked about this in the last episodes, we're not going to spend too much time talking about this today, but all these big corporations

0:22.6

pulling out of pride sponsorship.

0:26.2

Then, on the other hand, in some cases, this kind of desperate attempt to shore up the

0:33.3

edifice of a liberal guy in trans politics that appears to be failing.

0:37.1

Radical critiques that appears to be failing.

0:37.6

Radical critiques that try to sort of welcome this or incorporate what's happening into

0:42.6

a radical critique and say, well, okay, the corporations are leaving, but that's good because

0:45.9

we want the corporations out.

0:47.6

But none of those feel like they've gotten enough momentum or enough power or enough organizing

0:51.4

muscle or articulating a clear demand.

0:53.9

So at the moment, they just feel weak.

0:56.7

And so it just really seems like this is a pride month that is more characterized by sweaty

1:01.7

desperation than by any kind of strong unified political message.

1:07.2

I think for me, the symbol of this Pride Month is there's a Target Pride collection.

1:12.8

They put this out every year and infamously, it went online only in many stores last year

1:17.3

after there were sort of physical attacks on target employees at stores where this was being

1:21.7

sold in the U.S. And this year, they've got a step further and they've toned it down

1:25.9

another notch. And so now one of the two, three kind of columns of the Pride collection is called the neutral

1:33.5

collection.

1:34.5

And it's all of these beige clothes like clothes with teeny, teeny, teeny little rainbow accent.

1:40.1

So like a big, I sent you these pictures you, a big beige sweatshirt with like little bit of rainbow stitch on the, on the sort of hood pulls.

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