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No Stupid Questions

Extra: Angela Duckworth on “Masters of Scale”

No Stupid Questions

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2024

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

WaitWhat C.E.O. Jeff Berman interviews Angela about “grit-scaling” and her unlikely path to academic celebrity.

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, producer Rebecca here. We have a special bonus episode for you.

0:09.3

Angela was recently a guest on the podcast Masters of Scale,

0:13.5

a show that features stories and advice

0:15.7

from some of the world's most iconic business leaders.

0:19.1

We're excited to share host Jeff Berman's

0:21.7

recent interview with Angela.

0:23.5

We hope you enjoy it, and we'll be back on Saturday

0:26.4

with a brand new episode of No Stupid Questions. I was a science major. I thought it would be you know really cool to teach kids how to like learn about

0:44.1

solar energy by making like a hot dog cooker out of like tin foil and cardboard.

0:48.8

I go around to the school's classrooms and I'm knocking one by one on the doors of I think

0:58.8

it was like fifth or sixth grade classroom and I went into one classroom I remember the teacher's name, Mr. Z.

1:04.0

And he lets me do my little three minute commercial at the front of the classroom.

1:11.0

And one little boy puts up his hand and is asking questions about it.

1:14.6

You know, he's sort of leaning forward in his seed, he's got a big smile on his face.

1:18.6

And Mr. Z. interrupts him and he says, oh, not you.

1:27.0

This is not for you. This is for the smart kids. And I nearly took a baseball bat to that man.

1:30.0

I was like, that kid will never forget what you said and God knows what you've been saying

1:35.5

the rest of the school year. You know, I can't get that classroom teacher fired. I couldn't make

1:41.3

decisions at a level of policy that would directly change that kid's life,

1:45.7

but I knew I would never forget that story and I never have.

1:49.7

And it taught me a lesson, which is that, that yeah for sure we have genetic endowments you know I am

1:56.3

probably lucky to have gotten certain genetic cards from my dad and certain from my mom

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