Extermination Orders in Mormon Missouri - John Turner Pt. 23 | Ep. 2087
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
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šļø 21 November 2025
ā±ļø 122 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to Part 23 of our Joseph Smith the Podcast series with Dr. John G. Turner. Today we are continuing our discussion of Chapter 19 of his new book āJoseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophetā that covers the years 1838-1839 in Missouri.
Today we will dive deeper into one of the most volatile and consequential moments in early Latter-day Saint history: the escalating conflict between the Mormon settlers and the Missourians in the late 1830s. In this episode, we examine how political tensions, misinformation, vigilante actions, and religious absolutism collided to create a crisis that would lead to the infamous extermination order and some of the darkest events of the Mormon-Missouri War.
We explore the political landscape of Missouri, Joseph Smithās rising militancy, the Danites, the allegations made by Thomas Marsh and Orson Hyde, the tragedy at Haunās Mill, and the forces that brought both sides to the brink. From mob violence to theological justifications, from desperate settlers to governors refusing to intervene, this chapter shows how a religious movement and a frontier state found themselves locked in a spiral neither could escape.
If youāve been following the series, this episode continues directly from Part 22 and sets the stage for the next chapter: Liberty Jail.
Please purchase the book ā hereā .
To support this series please donate ā hereā . One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone and welcome to another edition of the Joseph Smith podcast, brought to you by Mormon Stories podcast. |
| 0:06.8 | I am your host for today, John DeLynn. |
| 0:08.6 | It is November 19, 2025. |
| 0:11.6 | And today we are on the second half of chapter 19 of this very important book, Joseph Smith and the Rise and Fall of an American Prophet by Dr. |
| 0:23.5 | John Turner. |
| 0:25.0 | Last episode, we covered the Danites, or as John Turner likes to pronounce them, the Danites. |
| 0:31.5 | Is that right? |
| 0:32.3 | Probably is Danites. |
| 0:33.6 | I have noticed in several comments that my failure to pronounce things correctly is |
| 0:41.1 | sometimes addressed. And I am a lifelong learner. So I'm here to try to do better. |
| 0:47.7 | You know it's Zion, not Zion, right? I'm good on that one. Okay. Anyway, we're not picking on you, |
| 0:54.0 | John Turner. We're grateful for you. Really quickly, we're not picking on you, John Turner. |
| 0:54.6 | We're grateful for you. |
| 0:55.9 | Really quickly, I got to shout out my buddy, Benjamin Halaf. |
| 1:00.5 | He's been on Mormon Stories podcast. |
| 1:02.4 | He's a huge Toronto Blue Jays fan. |
| 1:05.0 | He came on Mormon Stories this year and felt like there might be a correlation between him coming on Mormon stories and how well |
| 1:12.4 | the Blue Jays did. So we had a deal where if the Blue Jays won the World Series, he'd send me a hat. |
| 1:17.6 | And they almost won, but he sent me the hat anyway. So shout out to my Canadian buddy, Ben, |
| 1:23.6 | Benjamin. We love you. Go Blue Jays. Sorry Dodgers fans, no offense intended. All right, as you know, |
| 1:31.5 | this is the Joe Smith podcast. This is part 23 in the series. This podcast is available on Spotify, |
| 1:39.1 | on Apple Podcasts, and on YouTube. We've got our own playlist on YouTube under the Mormon Stories Podcast channel, |
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