Extended Interview: Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates
Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan
CBS News
3.5 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Margaret Brennan interviews Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates about President Trump's trip to China, conflict in the Middle East, and more.
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| 0:30.1 | Hi, this is Margaret Brennan, moderator of Face the Nation and Chief Foreign Affairs correspondent at CBS News. |
| 0:35.7 | Last week, I spoke with former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, |
| 0:39.0 | who is now the chancellor at William and Mary. Here's our conversation. Mr. Secretary, |
| 0:44.3 | if you're ready, we'll dive right in. Absolutely. So it's great to be back here with you, |
| 0:50.0 | but there's a lot going on in the world. You said in December we're living in perhaps one of the most, if not the most |
| 0:58.2 | dangerous periods in our modern American history. Why do you feel that way? |
| 1:04.2 | For the first time in our history, we face nuclear armed adversaries in both Europe and Asia. |
| 1:12.6 | When China finishes their strategic nuclear modernization, |
| 1:16.6 | China and Russia together will have nearly twice as many strategic nuclear warheads |
| 1:21.6 | deployed as we do. |
| 1:24.6 | We have never faced a country, at least since the British Empire, that had greater manufacturing |
| 1:33.3 | and industrial capacity than the United States. |
| 1:36.3 | We have not faced a country that was as technologically advanced as we are, ahead of us in a few areas, behind us in a few areas, pretty much |
| 1:47.2 | even with us and a few others. |
| 1:49.7 | So we face an adversary that is more powerful and has more non-military instruments of |
| 1:58.6 | power than any adversary face. |
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