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CBS News Sunday Morning with Jane Pauley

Extended Interview: Bill Clinton and James Patterson

CBS News Sunday Morning with Jane Pauley

CBS News

News, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Cbs

4.6871 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The former president and the thriller writer previously teamed up on two #1 New York Times bestsellers. And now they've written their third thriller: "The First Gentleman," about a female president and her husband, who is on trial for murder. In this web exclusive, Bill Clinton and James Patterson talk with correspondent Tracy Smith about the process and joy of their collaborations; how the characters reflect an attitude in Washington where politics is a game; and, in the current political climate, the necessity of maintaining democracy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is Jane Pauli. When you get a best-selling author and a former president together to write a political thriller for the third time, there's a lot to talk about. As Sunday mornings, Tracy Smith found out when she sat down with James Patterson and Bill Clinton.

1:28.3

Let's talk about this relationship.

1:30.3

So back when you wrote your first book together, the New York Times said that the two of you complete each other in the Jerry McGuire sense.

1:40.3

Okay. Well, we kind of do.

1:42.3

You know, I have this thing that's been driving me for months now, which is my time here is short, what can I do most beautifully? And in this case, doing another book with my friend is a beautiful thing to do. And that's a big piece of it for us.

1:55.0

I've been an avid reader of mysteries, thrillers, police procedures for 40 plus years.

2:05.2

Except mine, he doesn't read mine.

2:06.7

That's not true. I've read a lot of your books. But I've now read a lot more.

2:12.3

So we had the same lawyer and agent, Bob Barnett, he said, you guys ought to do a book together.

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