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On Being with Krista Tippett

[Extended] Clint Smith with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Society, Spirituality, Society & Culture, Sociology, Culture, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Social Sciences, On Being, Arts

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Summary

This phrase recurs throughout Clint Smith's writing: "in the marrow of our bones." It is an example of how words can hold encrypted wisdom — in this case, the reality that memory and emotion lodge in us physically. Words and phrases have carried this truth forward in time long before we had the science to understand it. Clint Smith is best known for his 2021 book, How the Word Is Passed, but he is first and foremost a poet. He and Krista discuss how his various life chapters have been real-world laboratories for him to investigate the entanglement between language and the intelligence of the body — and the related entanglement between history and place. His poetic sensibility has singularly opened readers to approach a generative reckoning with American history — on whatever side of that history our ancestors stood. Clint Smith has a way of making reckoning possible at a humanizing, softening, bodily level — in the marrow, you might say, of our bones.

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0:00.0

Before we get to the show today, I want to tell you about a journalist and podcaster I deeply

0:06.0

respect and enjoy Dan Harris. He hosts the podcast 10% happier, which is a program with a guiding

0:15.0

philosophy that happiness is a skill you can learn and Dan's personal odyssey to pursuing

0:21.4

transformation for himself and others came by way of a panic attack on national television.

0:27.9

He talks to scientists and meditation teachers and the occasional celebrity on subjects like

0:34.3

productivity, anxiety, enlightenment, psychedelics, and relationships. Listen to 10% happier with

0:42.7

Dan Harris wherever you listen to podcasts. Support for on being with Christa Tippett comes from

0:50.1

the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations that are applying spiritual solutions

0:55.8

to society's toughest problems. Learn more at Fetzer.org.

1:00.6

I'm Christa Tippett. Up next, my extended conversation with poet and chronicler of communal

1:06.8

remembering Clint Smith. There is a shorter, produced version of this conversation wherever you

1:13.3

found this podcast. Clint, do you have any questions from me before we start?

1:19.9

I don't think so except I'm one of those people, what did I say? Long time listening,

1:24.8

first time. Oh, that's nice. That makes me happy, really happy. Yeah, it's a wonderful show.

1:30.2

Thank you. Well, but I don't want to say anything until we start. Okay.

1:44.2

My name is Clint Smith. I'm sitting here with my three books. That's good. No, no, that's good.

1:50.0

So one thing I want to share with you is that I think the producer you've been dealing with

1:58.3

is Kayla Edwards and you probably haven't made this connection, but she was the opinion section

2:04.3

editor of the Davidson newspaper like you. I'm thinking you met her a couple of years ago and

2:10.2

took a picture and shared it on Twitter. Anyway, I remember that. Yeah, and I asked her. I said,

2:17.2

because she put this in the prep and I said, did you tell him? Did you remind him? She said,

2:21.2

no, so I want you to know that as we start. And now she works for you all. Yeah, and she's on

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