From the Secret Cumball Studios, it's the Secret Coball Express.

One for each other and all for one, the three brave amigos are we.

Brother to brother and everyone, a brave amigo.

Today, Jamie welcomes honorary founder Marty Connell and Rodney Smith to discuss the evolution of board gaming.

And now, please welcome the Secret Cabal Founders.

Hey now, Kabbalists, and welcome to another installment of the Secret Cabal Express.

This is Jamie, and I got to say that I have two of my favorite board game media creators and personal friends with me today.

Marty Connell from Roland Dyson taking names and the ever popular Rodney Smith from Watch It Played.

Thanks for being with me today, guys.

Wow, with that introduction, I'm excited to be here.

First off, just I am so excited to be here. I mean,

to come in the, number one, let me just hear what happened. I came in here, drove into your studio,

came in, was met by a very nice receptionist who took me back to the green room. I mean, you guys

got like shrimp cocktail and all this stuff back there. And then I come into this plush,

lush studio, which is absolutely gorgeous. I can't believe the stuff. You have like a buffet

every, hold on a second. Wait a minute. Oh my gosh. You guys got massage tables? Y'all got

get massages during the show? Oh, absolutely. That's why we're so fluid with our talk. We're so

relaxed and so comfortable. Hey, that's why we have the Patreon account, right? This is why we get

this. We have to be, we have to be bathed in luxury while we're recording this show.

Now people know why I keep coming back, Marty. I wasn't telling anyone about all this good stuff.

I wanted it all to myself. I'm sorry, was that spoiler? Yeah, man. Well, I'll tell you

what it actually is. If you guys were in this room with me right now, I'm looking around, I'm seeing

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