Exposing Useful Idiots & the Lies Liberals Told Me | James Lindsay Interview

The Rubin Report

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News Commentary, News, Politics

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🗓️ 20 June 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to James Lindsay about how an issue with a diversity hire first alerted him to the growing problems of wokeness, his recent red pill moment, and why he is worried about the useful idiots of woke culture. First James explains what made him, Peter Boghossian and Helen Pluckrose decide to create the grievance studies hoax. James explains what it’s been like for a liberal to work with so many conservatives at events like CPAC. James also clarifies what both liberals and conservatives get wrong about the critical race theory debate. James describes what led him to be more concerned about what he calls the crypto woke who function as useful idiots for woke culture by not taking their demands at face value. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Dave Rubin joining me today is the founder of New Discours and the co-author of
0:12.5	cynical theories how activist scholarship made everything about race, gender, and identity.
0:19.9	James Lindsay, welcome back to the Rubin Report.
0:21.7	Hey Dave, good to see you man.
0:24.0	It's good to see you.
0:25.0	You know I didn't realize until we booked you for today that you've been on the show a couple
0:29.1	of times but only in panel form.
0:31.5	You've never been on as a solo entity.
0:34.7	This is as far as it gets huh?
0:36.5	Yeah well, here I am.
0:38.5	Change that.
0:39.5	Here you are.
0:40.5	So actually the first time that I had you on I had you on with our friend Peter Begozin
0:45.8	who everybody knows and when the show ended that was probably about, it's got to be a good
0:50.4	three years already or so.
0:52.6	And when the show ended I think you sort of still thought you could maybe modify some
0:57.6	of this stuff from within the left and I had kind of shifted a little bit and when the
1:01.7	cameras went off I said well you know James I sense that the conservatives are going to
1:06.0	start liking you and you might want to go in that direction a little bit because I think
1:09.3	you're going to find fertile ground for these ideas.
1:11.6	And I sense you kind of were like I don't want to do that just yet.
1:16.1	That's three years ago and man it's been a wild ride huh?
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