Exposing the Shady Efforts to Take Public Land From the American People: MeatEater's Ryan 'Cal' Callaghan

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

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Society & Culture

4.9 • 648 Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Ryan 'Cal' Callaghan is a conservationist, backcountry hunter, host of the podcast “Cal of the Wild”, and a contributor to MeatEater. In January, he will transition from the Director Of Conservation at MeatEater Inc. to become the president and CEO of the organization Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA). The group's mission is "to ensure North America's outdoor heritage of hunting and fishing in a natural setting, through education and work on behalf of wild public lands, waters, and wildlife." Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/change-agents-with-andy-stumpf/id1677415740 Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3SKmtN55V2AGbzHDo34DHI?si=5aefbba9abc844ed SPONSORS: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ Mizzen and Main Get 20% off your first purchase at https://www.mizzenandmain.com with promo code IRONCLAD20 Aura: Go To: https://aura.com/ironclad to try 14 days for free Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:48.3	And watching the mental gymnastics happen
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1:02.0	Like they just don't have a leg to stand on.
1:18.6	Welcome back to change agentsents, an ironclad original, presented by our super spicy friends over at Firecracker Forum.
1:24.3	Today we're going to be talking about the fight for public land, and my guest is Ryan Cal-Callallan.
1:29.5	As of January 1st, Cal is the president and CEO of backcountry hunters and anglers,
1:34.4	and he is transitioning from his position as the vice president of conservation at Meat Eater.
1:40.2	He's going to continue to be a meat eater contributor and host his weekly podcast, Cal's Week in Review.
1:49.9	Let's dive into the show. I've actually been very familiar with your work, but it was more through a mediator.
1:54.3	That's obviously when I first got exposed to you watching some of the content with you and
1:57.4	Ronella. Just to give people a better picture of who you are, because I know
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