Exposing the Dark Details of China's Illegal Organ Harvesting | Jan Jekielek
The Rubin Report
Emma Dog Productions
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🗓️ 21 March 2026
⏱️ 18 minutes
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Summary
Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Jan Jekielek about his book Killed to Order and the investigation into China's alleged forced organ harvesting; reports of organ trafficking tied to Chinese military hospitals; the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners and Uyghurs; evidence presented by journalists and human rights investigators; proposed U.S. legislation like the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act and the Falun Gong Protection Act; and the broader geopolitical and human rights implications of confronting the Chinese Communist Party, and much more. Order the book here: Killed to Order: China's Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America's Biggest Adversary: https://www.amazon.com/Killed-Order-Harvesting-Industry-Adversary/dp/1510786503
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| 0:00.0 | By 1999, there were 70 to 100 million people by government estimate doing this, bigger than the Communist Party. |
| 0:06.4 | The Communist decided to crush it. |
| 0:08.7 | Okay, didn't necessarily mean kill everybody or something, but re-educate them, transform them, brainwash them. |
| 0:14.5 | It's kind of standard operating procedure for the Communist Party over the years. |
| 0:18.6 | But these people proved unusually resilient. |
| 0:22.0 | Okay. So they pushed mass propaganda into the system, dehumanized them in the process of this |
| 0:27.0 | persecution, straight out of 1930s Germany actually talking points. This is what we're talking about. |
| 0:31.6 | And they incarcerated perhaps a million, perhaps two. We don't know the exact numbers. |
| 0:36.4 | The UN in 2005 said that half of the |
| 0:38.6 | people in that whole massive incarceration system they have in China were fell and gone, right? |
| 0:43.7 | So now what happened is some very evil person figured out, hey, wait a second, I can |
| 0:47.7 | actually monetize this, right? Blood type, tissue type, organs can get the vitals of a whole lot of people in the system |
| 0:55.7 | who, by the way, are known to be unusually healthy. And now if someone's got the money and they |
| 1:00.8 | put it down, they're already pre-matched because in a database, someone that matches them, |
| 1:06.7 | because there's this large population already exists and they can be shipped and killed to order, |
| 1:11.6 | which is why the name of my book is killed to order. |
| 1:22.1 | I'm Dave Rubin, and joining me today is the senior editor of Epic Times and author of the new book |
| 1:27.4 | Killed to Order. |
| 1:28.8 | Jan Yacallic, how are you, my friend? |
| 1:31.3 | Dave, it's so good to be here. |
| 1:33.6 | It's good to see you. |
| 1:34.9 | I'm trying to think. |
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