I'm Dave Rubin and this is the Rubin Report.

We're still in lockdown mode.

Joining me today is a true renaissance man, an author, a podcaster, a narrator, and

a guy who has done an awful lot of dirty jobs.

Mike Rowe, finally, I can welcome you to the Rubin Report.

And finally I can say it's great to be here.

I'm sorry it took so long, but you know, jobs, stuff, whatever.

That was a big intro that I gave you there because there's a lot of things that I could

call you, I suppose, or that someone reading your bio could call you.

What would you call yourself first and foremost?

A good, natured model to vocational schizophrenia.

I don't know, that's not bad.

That was my, you know, I, I mean, it's such a huge question really.

I mean, it's just, you came right out of the gate with a giant existential query.

You know, how do I actually, how do I actually identify myself?

For a long time, I would have said, I'm a host.

And then I went through this phase where I said, well, I get paid to impersonate hosts

on television shows.

And I became fairly fast-ciled at it.

But today, honestly, thanks to dirty jobs and a bunch of other stuff that happened in

this wake, I've adapted the mindset of a guest, part guest, part avatar, part cipher.

So I see my role today, not to be too grand about it, but I tap the country on the shoulder

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