The two pillars of this are confusion and degradation.

And if you can keep people confused,

and you can keep people in a state of constant degradation,

meaning saying things they know are untrue,

undermining everything they used to believe, feeling like they are worthless, and they don't have

the sort of personal strength to push back on this stuff, then you have that fertile ground for,

and this is the menticidal process, as he calls it, you have that fertile ground to make people

believe whatever you want them to believe. And I think that the, for example, the gender madness stuff or the transgender

stuff today is really one of the most perfect examples of how this plays out in a modern

liberal society overall. It's, again, the same processes, but they can't lock you.

It's not Maoist China.

You're not locked in a cell with people beating you saying, say the thing, say the thing.

But as you know, Dave, they will say, say the thing or else will take you off the platform.

Say the thing or you will get fired.

You know, this is, it's different levels of coercion, but it's still coercion.

I'm Dave Rubin, and joining me today is the host of the Buck Sexton show as well as the

author of the new book, Manufacturing Delusion, How the Left

Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination, and Propaganda Against You, My Friend Buck Sexton,

Buck, how, look, and he's holding the book. You were supposed to be here in studio.

Somebody has a little tummy ache, and we had to do this on Zoom so you're showing me the book

digitally. I know, I'm just protecting your health, Dave. That was what it comes down to. You know, I don't want to be passing, whatever. You know, the truth is, we're here in South Florida, and I hate to say this because you and I love the Florida, and we're both former New Yorkers. so we have this whole journey in common.

And I assume at one point you didn't even have a beard and now you and I love the Florida and we're both former New Yorkers. So we have this whole journey in common.

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