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Exposed: How online fraudsters are ripping off Britain

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🗓️ 24 May 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

It took less than an hour on the Telegram messaging app for an undercover Times reporter to infiltrate a network of fraudsters based in the UK. They openly traded bank details for thousands of victims – and boasted that the police would do nothing to stop them. We hear how the gang were exposed and speak to one of their targets.

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Guest: Emma Yeomans, news reporter, The Times.

Host: Manveen Rana.

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0:00.0

You must have seen them. I seem to get them all the time. All those text messages and emails

0:11.2

claiming to be an urgent message from your bank or from a delivery company about a delivery

0:17.3

that you really weren't expecting. Sometimes they claim to be from the NHS or from friends

0:23.4

and family who have apparently lost their phones. All fake messages trying to trick you into

0:32.0

handing over personal details and money. No surprises there. What might surprise you though is just how

0:41.6

common thought has become. It's the most common crime in Britain, 41% of all recorded offenses are now

0:48.4

fraud and about one in 15 Brits will become a victim each year. I mean the financial cost of the

0:53.7

country of this is staggering. And now one of our undercover reporters has found that criminals are

1:01.6

openly trading bank details for thousands of British fraud victims a week and boasting that police

1:10.4

do nothing to stop them. I saw one one person say it's better than selling drugs because the money

1:15.7

is quite large and the risks of getting caught are quite low. It felt like there was this online

1:21.3

academy for people looking to commit financial crime and that really interested us. How do these

1:28.8

scams work and why are so many fraudsters getting away with it? You're listening to stories of our

1:40.1

times from the times and the Sunday times. I'm Manvine Rana. Today, how credit card fraudsters are

1:49.2

ripping off Britain. I'm Emma Yomens. I'm one of the reporters on the times.

2:02.8

You're known as Emma to us but not necessarily when you're when you're out investigating and

2:09.9

particularly with this investigation where you went on the cover just introduce yourself in your

2:14.5

undercover guise. Yes, so for this story I was H went by a single initial, a young Londoner looking

2:22.0

to become a fraudster and hoping to find someone to teach them. You've been looking into this whole

2:30.6

world of online fraud, of how people at the moment are able to buy and sell bank and credit card

2:36.4

details and seem to be making a lot of money doing it. Before we get on to exactly how that's

2:42.0

happening though, tell us a bit about the victims. Let's start with the man we're calling James.

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