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🗓️ 6 October 2025
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Algorithms, which are just sets of instructions expressed in code, are harder to restrict than physical goods. But, as Marketplace’s Meghan McCarty Carino reports, governments — including the U.S. — have long tried to prevent their export.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, listeners. Marketplace's Webby-winning Kids podcast, Million Bazillion, is back for an all-new season. |
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| 0:38.7 | Can China keep TikTok's secret code secret? |
| 0:43.2 | From American Public Media, this is Marketplace Tech. |
| 0:46.3 | I'm Novosafo. |
| 1:04.0 | The White House has released some details of what could eventually be a deal with China, allowing TikTok to keep operating in the U.S. |
| 1:12.0 | China has been notably silent about the White House proposal, but the app's fate will likely come down to who controls its algorithm. Right now, China has legal restrictions, preventing companies in other countries |
| 1:17.3 | from owning that code. And that raises an important question. In the digital age, can you even |
| 1:23.6 | prevent code from crossing borders? As Marketplaces Megan McCarty-Korino reports, |
| 1:29.3 | it's been done before, and we've likely not seen the last of the strategy. Export controls have |
| 1:35.0 | come up a lot in recent years. The U.S., for instance, has restricted the sale of advanced |
| 1:40.3 | semiconductors to China, which in turn has limited exports of critical minerals to the U.S. |
| 1:47.0 | These are goods that can be used to build strategic technologies. |
| 1:51.5 | An algorithm, though, is a bit more abstract than elements dug out of the earth, says |
| 1:57.1 | Professor Stephen Weber at UC Berkeley School of Information. |
| 2:09.6 | People say, oh, the algorithm, as if the algorithm is like a thing or a widget or like something you could put in a box or drop on your foot. |
| 2:12.0 | An algorithm is none of those things. |
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