all right welcome everybody today i have with me the one and only nick bryant he is of course published

at the same publisher as myself esoteric Hollywood three by the way will be out in the next few weeks

so get your signed copies at the shop you can also get nick's books as well uh in the trying day shop

nick how you doing i'm doing good jay how you doing? I'm doing good, Jay. How you doing? I'm doing well.

It's a massive Trump failure, unfortunately. Not that I don't have a problem criticizing Trump,

but I was hoping for better. So today we're going to be talking about an area that Nick is an expert in,

which is the whole domain of Jeff Stein,

or Jeffrey Epstein, if we're now using his full name.

Nick, how do you want to kick this off?

And you are somewhat of an expert in this.

So how did you get involved, first of all, in studying Epstein?

Then we'll get into the case and where it's gone now.

I wrote a book which is published by Trindade called The Franklin Scanel,

a story of power broker's shot abuse and betrayal.

And in that book, I was, I worked on for seven years.

And it was about a huge child trafficking network.

In some ways, Epstein is kind of a carbon copy of the Franklin scandal.

And it was published in 2009, 2010, and we couldn't get anybody to touch it.

I live in New York City.

I live in the mecca of publishing.

And I couldn't get,

and I had a lot of buddies in media.

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