Welcome to Exploring the Marketplace Podcast. My co-host is Bob Hassan and we are creating

a conversation with Christian Marketplace leaders who have careers that have been impacted

by their faith. We are also answering your questions about entrepreneurship, business

leadership, careers, and how the Kingdom of God changes your impact in the marketplace.

Come join the conversation now.

Welcome to Exploring the Marketplace. I'm Bob Hassan and I'm with my friend Sean Bulls,

Sean. How are you?

I'm so good. I'm so excited about our show today because we have one of my long-term

friends who's just been sort of a mentor, big brother, father, figure at different times

in my life. Robert Zelmer, he is an entrepreneur. He's a serious entrepreneur. And we've,

just a group of guys have got together, maybe one or twice a year and then we bring our

wives into it too and they've all become really good friends. And we talk about stuff and

all of us who are in that group or pastors who step a Robert in also entrepreneurs,

which is really cool. So he's kind of walked us through some days, but he's an optometrist

from Oklahoma City and he also has a car auction. He has a number of other businesses that

I mean, we take a lot of lists of them all out, but super successful and it's all because

of his relationship with God. So I've been excited to have him on this at some point

and today's the day. That's so exciting. You know what I think about because you've

told me for years about Dr. Z and about the group of friends and you know this let's

talk a little bit about trusted friendships, about common relationships with that means

to people who are in business and you know in their personal lives, et cetera, et cetera.

Well, I mean, you know, we we've experienced this even together. It's like there's something

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