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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.8 • 11.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Rachel and Van start the show by giving their reactions to the return of ‘Verzuz’ and their opinion of Cash Money versus No Limit Records. Then, they are joined by California Governor Gavin Newsom to talk about the current Democratic Party, Trump, and who could be in the running to lead the Democratic Party. Later, Ryan Grim stops by to talk about the Gaza ceasefire and what it actually means. 00:00 - Welcome! 02:19 - Governor Gavin Newsom joins us! 1:10:34 - Ryan Grim joins us! 1:34:25 - ‘Verzuz’ returns 1:46:01 - Ubisoft cancels Civil War–era 'Assassin's Creed' game 1:48:13 - Thanks for watching! Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Governor Gavin Newsom and Ryan Grim Producers: Donnie Beacham and Ashleigh Smith Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Her learning is on is Avvent-Lafin. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. Gavin Newsom on the show. Gavin Newsom is on the show. You said it. We let you guys on social kind of say what you wanted to hear. He's here today. And, um... What did you think? I thought it was a good interview.
0:23.9	I thought you didn't think so.
0:24.5	I did.
0:24.9	Okay.
0:26.0	I look.
0:27.4	Interview rating.
0:29.2	I do apology ratings.
0:29.9	One to ten.
0:30.7	Interview rating.
0:31.5	How do you think... It's a seven.
0:33.1	Like the whole.
0:34.4	Well, I'll tell you what.
0:36.4	You guys are, are going to see.
0:38.3	Kevin Samuels would never let you use seven, by the way.
0:40.8	Because, right.
0:41.5	That's what everybody uses.
0:43.2	Well, look, I guess a 10 would be, you know what?
0:46.5	As an interview, I'm going to go 9.
0:48.8	Because obviously you want to, if Gavin and I agreed on everything, oh my God, it's a 10 interview.
0:56.1	You know why it should be above a seven? Because one, I'm just going to put this out here.
1:01.4	We had a limited amount of time and he gave us more. There's only so many questions you could ask.
1:06.8	We could have, I mean, we need a day to, like, really sit down.
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