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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Breaking Down Reparations and Restorative Justice With Isaac Bryan! Plus, Threatening the Voting Act and Stephen A.’s Crockett Comments. | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.811.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Rachel and Van start the show by remembering the late legend D’Angelo and the issue concerning the health of black men in America. Then, they are joined by Isaac Bryan, member of the California State Assembly, to talk about assaults on reparations and restorative justice and his relationship with Governor Gavin Newsom. Later, they take a peek into the latest Stephen A. Smith drama and the reactions to his comments on Representative Jasmine Crockett. 00:00 - Welcome! 03:23 - Thoughts about the Gavin Newsom interview 14:42 - Remembering D’Angelo 36:51 - The Supreme Court and the Voting Rights Act 50:46 - Young Republicans' secret Telegram chat leaked 57:56 - Isaac Bryan joins us! 1:28:24 - Stephen A. and his comments on Rep. Jasmine Crockett 1:46:27 - Thanks for watching! Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Isaac Bryan Producers: Donnie Beacham and Ashleigh Smith Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yeah, yo, thought warriors.

0:03.5

What is up?

0:04.4

Harlan is on.

0:05.4

It's I Van Laketon Jr.

0:06.4

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:08.1

We have Isaac Brian joining us on the podcast today.

0:11.1

He is an assemblyman from here in California.

0:15.1

And he responded on Twitter to the news that Gavin Newsom,

0:21.5

someone who was recently on the show, if you guys didn't see it,

0:24.8

veto some reparations bills.

0:27.9

Yeah.

0:28.3

Signed some, vetoed some.

0:30.1

And I saw him respond to that on the old Twitter sphere.

0:34.2

I invited him.

0:35.1

He decided to come back.

0:36.8

We had a great conversation. Yeah, he was

0:38.4

great. About Gavin, about the bills that were vetoed, about the overall climate of reparations

0:45.0

and restorative, reparative justice. We've had this conversation before. A lot. But not with

0:53.3

someone involved in the politics.

0:56.2

Right. So it's good. Someone who's been in the fight and authored some of the stuff.

1:01.8

Authors is a scholar turned a sibling man. A scholar. It's a long overdue conversation. I tried to

1:08.2

what? You tried to come at Dr. Darity. Sandy D not. When I saw it, I said, oh, Dr.

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