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Hidden Heritage

Exploring Sacred Grounds and Pilgrimage Routes with Guy Hayward

Hidden Heritage

HeritageXplore

Society & Culture, Arts, History

4.8 • 608 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Step inside the world of hidden heritage as Lady Violet Manners invites you to embark on a journey of discovery in the latest episode of the podcast. Joining her is Dr. Guy Hayward, co-founder of the British Pilgrim Trust, to unravel the timeless allure of pilgrimage and the profound connection to the sacred sites of Great Britain. In this episode, listeners can expect to be swept away by captivating tales of historical sculptures, ancient trees, and the transformative power of pilgrimage. With insights from Guy Hayward, discover the depths of custodianship, the spiritual significance of ancient buildings, and the resurgence of pilgrimage in the UK. As the conversation unfolds, delve into the rich tapestry of heritage and tradition, uncovering the unique rituals and personal transformations experienced on pilgrimage. Uncover the evocative melodies of early music at Westminster Abbey and the mesmerising charm of choral evensong as Guy shares his passion for these enchanting traditions. So, come along on this extraordinary journey through history, spirituality, and the enduring legacy of sacred heritage sites in Great Britain. It's an episode not to be missed, offering an uplifting and insightful exploration of our nation's hidden treasures. Key Points: 00:00:05: Introduction to Guy Hayward, co-founder of the British Pilgrim Trust 00:02:16: Guy defines pilgrimage as walking for the soul, not just for exercise 00:05:30: Guy encourages people to lie down in churches and look up at the ceilings 00:06:38: Guy discusses the origins of pilgrimage, dating back to the dawn of time 00:11:22: Guy shares his view on favourite pilgrimage routes in the UK 00:44:53: Guy reveals there are 16,000 ancient parish churches and 43 cathedrals in England and Wales 00:45:11: The British Pilgrim Trust has mapped out about 300 pilgrimage routes 00:46:25: Guy shares how his founding patron leads his godson on pilgrimages every year 00:48:28: Guy discusses the connection between historic houses and pilgrimage 00:53:36: Guy sings a song about a special tree at Belvoir Castle Guest Info Guy Hayward is a multi-talented individual with diverse interests and pursuits. He co-founded the British Pilgrimage Trust, an organisation dedicated to reviving the tradition of pilgrimage in Britain, after completing his PhD at Cambridge on the psychology and anthropology of communal singing. Alongside his work with the British Pilgrimage Trust, Guy runs the website choralevensong.org, an online directory aimed at raising awareness of Choral Evensong services. Additionally, he is one half of the satirical cabaret duo Bounder & Cad, showcasing his musical and comedic talents. Guy’s academic background, entrepreneurial spirit, and artistic abilities make him a versatile and fascinating figure, seamlessly blending spirituality, psychology, arts, and cultural heritage. About: Step inside Britain’s greatest historic houses, gardens and family homes through HeritageXplore, your digital gateway to discovering heritage today. Visit https://www.heritagexplore.com/ Links and Resources: British Pilgrim Trust Westminster Abbey English Heritage's regions in England "Sanctuary" initiative by the British Pilgrim Trust Choral evensong (a 16th-century musical service in churches) "Duchess" (No.1 History podcast) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Violet Manors and welcome to Hidden Heritage, the podcast that brings you

0:11.5

inside Great Britain's favourite destinations, with help from custodians, historians, historians,

0:17.2

artisans and experts.

0:28.5

Today on Hidden Heritage, I am joined by Dr Guy Hayward, co-founder of the British Pilgrim Trust,

0:35.5

half of musical comedy double act, Bounder & Cad, and the creator of Coral Evensong.org. Welcome, Guy. I'm so thrilled to have you on the podcast today,

0:42.3

particularly as we start this podcast, because Pilgrimage, until I met you in 2022, was something I knew

0:49.1

so little about, but have enjoyed learning so much about in the time that I've spent chatting to you and learning

0:54.9

about it over the years. But it really has been enjoying pilgrimage or renaissance in the UK.

1:01.1

And that's what we're really here to uncover and discover and discuss together.

1:06.9

So I was sort of thinking about how to start this conversation with you guys.

1:10.8

But I think

1:11.5

it would be so interesting in your own words to hear about what pilgrimages and where it came

1:18.2

from and also just hello and thank you so much for being here with me today as well.

1:22.6

Hello. Well, thank you for your enthusiasm and part of you and showing me sort of getting it sort of straight away without necessarily knowing all the details, sort of getting the main thrust of it.

1:36.8

Pilgrimage, for me, like walking has been enjoying a renaissance for the last 30, 40, probably more years in Britain.

1:48.8

And but generally there's been a kind of, when I was a kid, we were taken up, hit mountains and stuff to get a nice view.

1:57.4

And that was generally like the kind of mindset that you would go and you walking became a

2:02.8

kind of you'd walk from the car park you'd go and have a lovely view and then you come home and then

2:07.3

you maybe have picnic or something but that was sort of it and I suppose pilgrimage for me has more

2:14.9

of a dimension to it than that it's so maybe that walking is maybe more for the body and pilgrimage for me has more of a dimension to it than that. So maybe that walking is maybe more for

2:19.6

the body and pilgrimage for the soul. And I think I've been trying to unpack the soul part of

2:26.4

pilgrimage and the walking ever since. And I mean, you're saying how you don't know that much about pilgrimage, but you've been introduced to it and you kind of, I think I am weirdly, and it sounds a bit sort of cliche, but I'm starting, I realize I don't know much about it. The more I do it, the more I realize you can't know everything about it because

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