This is the Exploring Astrology podcast, and I'm your host, Adam Summer.

It's time for a new story.

I suggest that the stories we need turned up right on time about 5,000 years ago.

We need a new story.

We didn't just dream our carefully individuated thoughts.

We got dreamt.

Got some new stories this time, ones to stretch the imagination, maybe even the believability of astrology.

It's a conversation between Mark Jones and I about the planetary nodes.

Before the show, I was thinking how I've been aware of the planetary nodes really ever since I started studying astrology,

yet I've never integrated them into my work. I'm not the only one.

There's not too many astrologers that I know that actually use the planetary nodes, especially the outer planetary nodes, they move quite

slowly. Yet there's these ideas that come from Rudyard and Jeff Green and others about

their role in the collective destiny, almost like the nodes of the moon, but these are nodes

of planets that have larger story arcs,

we'll say, and longer living dragons, might I add.

And so by the end of this conversation with Mark, I found a new appreciation for the planetary nodes.

Mark kind of has this effect.

So I'm a changing man, and who knows? Maybe I will start

integrating these into my work. And here's what Rujjar says of these nodes in a pamphlet that

he wrote in I think 1971, that factors that are inherent in the essential destiny of the individual.

This is kind of an effect that the planetary nodes have.

They are factors which reach deeper than the natural biosecic functions

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