All right, well, we'll just jump right into it. Rob Christoffer's in here from our strange

Skies podcast. And I always like to have you refresh my memory how we connected. Obviously,

I think it was on Twitter, but how did that come about? I don't even remember. So I've

long had a dream for our strange skies because I've been a fan of professional wrestling

for like a long time since I was like nine years old. And I sent out a tweet and I'm like,

this is my dream list of wrestlers to have on to this podcast, talk about UFOs. And I mean,

like there's there are some that are obvious. You could have Chris Statling around. That

would be a perfect guess for it. I tell her UFO stories. That's fine. Even even Claudio would

be perfect as he has the UFO, but you DM means like, why don't you come on talk as Derek? I was

like, hell yeah, I'll do it. Well, great. Well, we got together here. And obviously you are a

UFO expert and always looking for kind of different angles on the different tales that you can tell.

And you had something very interesting just kind of right out of the gate talking about how aliens

have basically changed over the years. And that to me is something that I'd like to delve into here

today. I really kind of get into that because obviously, you know, when you're first hearing about

aliens, it's the little green men. And then there's kind of like the like you as you're going to

talk with the communion Whitley striber, black eyes and the white kind of thin face, but kind of

start into how all of this has changed the perceptions of what exactly a lot of these creatures

did look like. What they have been looking like lately. And if there's something kind of growing

for the future. Today, when people think of aliens a lot of the time, they'll think of

grays, which are, you know, come great from the cover of Whitley striber's communion. They have

the large almond shaped black eyes. And there's like a tiny handful of other aliens like reptilian

aliens or tall blonde aliens or mantis beings, which if you have ever seen Brad Abraham's

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