This is the exploring astrology podcast where we are deciphering the symbolic language of God.

I am your host, so much. Thank you so much for listening.

But if you try to get one up on the universe and you're in competition with it. It means you don't

understand you are it.

Those are huge nuclear explosions billions of miles away.

And it goes on forever.

We go back to some more ancient understanding

about the relationship between humans and the creative mystery.

Consciousness is an amorphous expanding entity.

Hello, welcome to another exploring astrology

podcast, this one with Mark Jones.

And we talk about the therapeutic benefits of astrology,

that is the chart beyond the chart or charting the waters of

particular parts of essential consciousness beyond the symbols beyond the

chart beyond what the ego wants to hold on to and connect with and attach to.

It's a great conversation in fact I would rate it as one of the most fascinating and heartfelt titfelt titlating conversations

that I've ever had on the show and I mean that and you'll see what I mean here in a second.

And it's the third of August. I just got back from a weekend, my first weekend since I moved up here into the valley, back to Boulder. It was a fascinating full moon. It was good to see a lot of

you friends that were down there. Echoes of Venus, Venetian echoings. I mean my

goodness, Venus is indeed retrograde and soon early next week

she will be completely gone from the sky.

Dropping, dropping quicker night by night,

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