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Hello there friends welcome to another exploring astrology

podcast this one with Yulia Simas or is it Seamus who is the founder of the CIA?

That is the Cosmic Intelligence Agency.

And we have a lovely conversation about many things that I will introduce here in a second, but first I just want to orient you in time and space that I'm recording January 18th, 2017, 221 PM here in Colorado and in this moment the ascendant is 27 degrees of Gemini and that means that the descendant

that is on the Western horizon as I'm talking into this microphone is 27 plus Sagittarius and this comes up in the conversation.

It does indeed because it's the Galactic Center and it's something that I actually learned a new trait around the Galactic Center

and Yulia was talking about how this degree can relate to whistleblowers like Julian Assange and Snowden and I don't have

their charts as examples right now or in the show but I did bring up and I'm

going to just mention this real quick. This guy Michael Rupert

and I had never looked at his chart before and I don't have his birth time but I

looked it up to see if he has something on the Galactic Center because if you don't know who Michael Rupert is,

he was a whistleblower in the early 80s in Los Angeles and basically expose the CIA for smuggling crack cocaine into the

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