When we think of an astronaut, we obviously think of exploration.

But perhaps the desire to explore that sense of curiosity is what makes an astronaut.

In fact, that sense of curiosity is what makes somebody have a remarkable life.

Nobody embodies that more than Leeland Melvin.

He's been a professional football player, he's been a scientist, and yes, he's been an

astronaut.

And he has this insatiable curiosity, this optimism, and this desire to see things and

do things that he's never done before.

And the results are absolutely inspiring.

This is a bit of optimism.

Can I just tell you how good it is to see you?

One of the main reasons I wanted you to come on the podcast is because I just wanted to

see your beautiful face and talk to you because I freaking miss you.

And that's why I accept it the same for my beautiful face.

Exactly, exactly.

But you know, the other thing is when we come together, it goes everywhere, but it usually

ends up trying to solve a problem or think about a problem or something positive.

And I think that's always been what's aligned us in this bit of optimism, right?

It's always been about the future, and like, don't hold your phone up while you're watching

a shuttle takeoff because you're not going to experience it, okay, we have to give the

audience context.

To Leeland and I go way, way back, we've known each other a bunch of years.

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