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The Rubin Report

Explaining the Real Reason We Need Christmas | Frank Turek

The Rubin Report

Emma Dog Productions

News, News Commentary

4.4486 Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Frank Turek about the core message of Christianity and the meaning of Christmas; why the birth of Jesus is central to the Christian worldview and how belief in God provides an objective moral framework; he addresses the problem of evil and argues that Jesus' sacrifice offers a coherent moral and philosophical answer; they discuss the commercialization of Christmas and how gift-giving reflects God's gift to humanity; and much more. Check out the NEW RUBIN REPORT MERCH here: https://daverubin.store/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The story of Jesus, the reason that Jesus had to come into this world is because since God is

0:07.6

infinitely just, he's the standard of justice. He can't allow injustice to go unpunished. And we've all

0:14.2

been unjust. Everybody. So what does he do in order to not punish us because he's also infinitely loving? He has to find an

0:24.2

innocent substitute to punish on our behalf who takes our punishment upon himself voluntarily.

0:30.9

Where can he find an innocent substitute in any of us? He can't. We're all fallen. We've all done

0:35.5

wrong. The only place he can find an innocent substitute is in himself. So he adds humanity to his deity. And on Christmas, he comes into this world.

0:52.6

In a normal world, and if Charlie was with us, and if things had not gone so hailer over these three months every year, I like to, I usually bring on Rabbi David Wolpey to talk about Hanukkah, and I try to bring on either Bishop Barron, or I've done this with you before, or several other Christian evangelical. It doesn't matter the denomination, Christians to talk about Jesus and to talk about

1:12.6

Christmas. And this is the season. And I hope, you know, we pre-taped these things, but I always

1:16.8

hope people take a little time away from the computer to be with family and friends and everything

1:20.3

else. So how can I ask you this in the broadest way? I mean, what do you want people to know

1:26.4

about Jesus, about his birth, about this time of year that is most important?

1:34.6

Great question, Dave.

1:36.2

I think we saw evil live September 10th when Charlie was murdered.

1:47.8

But evil can't exist unless good exists,

1:53.7

and good can't exist unless God exists, because if there is no God, everything's just a matter of opinion. The guy that shot Charlie had an opinion that he ought to die, and obviously the

1:58.3

rest of us said, no, he shouldn't die. That's just a matter of opinion

2:02.9

unless there's a moral standard beyond us that we're obligated to obey, and that's God himself,

2:07.7

his nature himself. So without God, nothing's right or wrong. There are no rights. Everything's

2:13.1

just a matter of preference. But we know these things aren't just a matter of preference. And we know

2:17.3

not only did Tyler Robinson do wrong, but we know these things aren't just a matter of preference. And we know not only did

2:17.9

Tyler Robinson do wrong, but we've all done wrong in our lives. I mean, we're not perfect people.

2:24.2

We've sinned. We've done wrong things. And so the story of Jesus, the reason that Jesus had to come

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