Hey, my name is Chris Brennan, and you're listening to The Astrology Podcast.

This episode is a recording of an interview that I did with a journalist named Abby Miller,

whose a science journalist is writing a book titled The Spirituality Gap,

where she's going to explore a range of different spiritual practices and examine how people

make sense of life in the modern world. So as a science reporter, Abby was approaching the subject

from more of a skeptical perspective, but she said that she hoped to maintain a balance between

skepticism and open-mindedness. She asked me if I wanted to do an interview for a chapter of the

book that's going to be on Astrology, and I said that I would agree under the condition that

we could record and release the discussion as an episode of my podcast, which she agreed to do.

So I thought this would be a good opportunity to record an episode with somebody who is skeptical,

but curious about Astrology, and to sort of demonstrate how I would personally answer some of the

questions about Astrology that naturally come up in that context. In some ways, this is a continuation

of a similar approach that I took in episode 288 of The Astrology Podcast, which was entitled

explaining Astrology to non-astrologers, and if you enjoyed this episode, then I'd recommend

checking that one out as well. All right, let's get started with the interview. Hey, my name is Chris

Brennan, and you're listening to The Astrology Podcast. Joining me today is Abby Miller, and we're

going to be doing an interview where you have some questions related to a book that you're writing

about a number of different things. So could you first tell me a little bit about yourself and

about this book that you're working on? Hi, Chris. Thanks for having me on the podcast. It's

really nice to speak to you today. My name is Abby Miller. I'm a British journalist, and I'm

working on a book called The Spirituality Gap, which is going to be published by Duck With Books

in late 24, early 25, and the book is sort of profiling different forms of spirituality that

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