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experts today tell us who we got Jerry Beuting Jerry Beuting you will remember him from Making a Murder and this is so timely because when we recorded Jerry,

we didn't even know there was a Making Murder part two.

Yeah. Making Murder is awesome. It's on Netflix. We loved it. We devoured it like sweet sweet candy bars. Yeah, but sweet intense very intense

Very sad candy bars and we're

and also we're now we're sad thinking about it was very heavy

but it's really well done it's such a good show yeah very juicy

very juicy candy bar.

And Jerry was one of the two counsel that were defending Stephen Avery,

and he's just an incredibly smart, articulate, wonderful man with a very important message to spread about

jurisprudence in this country. Yeah. We could do a little bit better is his

theory and I found it very compelling.

We got a great system, but I think it could be better.

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