Escaping Denver, supplementary.

Interview with John Zata.

I know, I know, I know, I know.

I'm releasing this episode on an off week, but in my defense, this isn't like the other episodes.

See, I've been getting emails asking me about what my research process is.

What am I doing beyond asking all of you for help?

And that's a fair question.

When these messages dropped in on me out of the blue, I had no idea where to begin.

I started with the internet, which was just a rabbit hole of contradicting theories.

Is there such a thing as access to too much information?

It's like drinking from a fire hose. That experience had me longing for a book or something to explain it all. Just a simple

textbook for what I'm going through. Something about it being printed makes it tangible and

somehow more reputable. Sadly, libraries don't have an I've received messages from strangers trapped in potential

secret military base section, so I still had to hunt.

Full disclosure, the hardcore believers in this stuff freak me out a bit.

They're all just so passionate and certain.

It's like oil and water to what I was feeling.

So I had to look for an author that's a little bit more like me.

At least a degree of separation between them and the subject.

A skeptic.

What I really needed was a journalist.

And that's what brought me to John Zata.

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