Regressing to the mean since 2015, it's the Hockey PEDEOCast with your host, Dmitri Filipovich.

Welcome to the Hockey PiedioCast. My name is Dmitra Filipovich, and joining me as my good buddy, Kevin Woodley. Kevin, what's going on, Ben?

Not much, man. Not much. Connects are on the road. So when I say I'm living the dream, that really is the dream.

Well, we got a fun topic, a show ahead of us today, a lot of good topics. We're going to see how many we can get through. It's you and I talking about goalies, so probably less than I'd like, because you're certainly going to go along on the first couple of these, but that's okay. That's what we're here for the listeners, always enjoy it, and it's going to be a great time. Let's start with John Gibson, our old pal. You know, I was reflecting on all the conversations the two of us have had over the

years. And I've been fortunate enough to have you on for what, like seven or eight years now of this

show. And we generally try to catch up every month or so. So we've done a bunch of these. And I feel like

Gibson, out of all the goalies we talked about in that time cumulatively, we probably

talk more about him than any other one.

Now a lot of those conversations were framed around the idea of him as a trade target at the

time because everyone wanted to see him go to a competitive situation where he was playing

on a team that was winning and back in the playoffs and the ducks certainly weren't at that

stage of their cycle at that point.

He gets straighted finally to Detroit at the draft this past off season and it starts slow.

For the Red Wings, October and November 13 starts.

He gets pulled a couple times, 44 goals against 865, say percentage, just 4, 7 and 1 record.

They were kind of splitting the starts pretty evenly between him and Camp Talbot at the time because Talbot was outplaying him. But since December 1st, 15 starts and just six for Talbot in that time, 31 goals against, 9.30, say, percentage, 13 and two record, three shutouts. The two losses, he got just a couple goals of run supports. They weren't necessarily even his fault. And he's been phenomenal.

I'm not sure I'd say he looks like vintage John Gibson because I romanticized that image of what he was in his prime.

But he's been darn good and he's winning a ton of games and he's giving the Red Wings good goaltending.

And it's been really fun to watch.

Has it been everything that you were hoping for during all those years when we were kind of at the nadir with him in terms of the same percentage plummeting, people wondering how much gas he had left in the tank? Yeah, no, it's, I thought I was going to have to eat a lot of crow after those first couple of months because the bet was that you put him on a good team and gave him another opportunity. He still had this in him.

And obviously it didn't start well. And I think that should have been somewhat expected. I think

we even talked about this in the summer or leading into this season. Like when you go down and over

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