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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Exit the Dragon

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2022

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

The Remnant offers two guests in one today, as AEI scholars Hal Brands and Michael Beckley join the program to discuss their new book, Danger Zone: The Coming Conflict with China. With the United States and China running a “superpower marathon,” how can we expect the competition to resolve, and is there an appropriate historical analogy for China’s current state? Furthermore, what foreign policy should we pursue toward China? Can China make a stable transition to democracy? And will Michael go down in Remnant history as the only guest to join from the back of an Uber?

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Love

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Kommitism gentleman I

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Please have your attention

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Pretty sure listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg host of the Remnant Podcast brought to you by

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the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

0:33.6

I am still in Maine, this is my last week here.

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And this is, it's not the first, per se, in the sense that we've had two guests on simultaneously

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before, but it's pretty rare.

0:46.3

What is the first is one of the guests is actually recording, is recording this from the

0:50.0

backseat of an Uber, which I did not know was a thing, but it's a thing.

0:54.9

And so I'm very excited to have two of my colleagues from AI who have one new, very important

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book that everyone should look at, pick up and buy and read and, and, and underline and

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all the rest, called Danger Zone, the coming conflict with China by Michael Beckley and

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how brands.

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