Exit Interview With Michael Bierut
99% Invisible
SiriusXM Podcasts and Roman Mars
4.8 • 28.1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2026
⏱️ 37 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | On Thursday, January 22nd, I'll be hosting a conversation with Nate DeMayo of the Memory Palace at KQED in San Francisco. |
| 0:07.7 | I could not be more of a fan of Nate in his writing, which is the best in all of podcasting. |
| 0:13.4 | Please come see us and say hi. Again, that's the Memory Palace live at KQED in San Francisco on Thursday, January 22nd. |
| 0:20.4 | We'll have a link to tickets in the show notes. |
| 0:24.2 | This is 99% Invisible. |
| 0:26.6 | I'm Roman Mars. |
| 0:29.8 | Michael Beirut is one of the best known designers in America. |
| 0:32.9 | You probably interact with design from Michael and his team every day. |
| 0:37.3 | Like the Verizon V checkmark, |
| 0:38.8 | or the logos for Yahoo and Slack, or redesigns for brands like MasterCard, Sacks 5th Avenue, |
| 0:45.3 | and the New York Jets. Michael even designed the logo for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, |
| 0:50.5 | that H with the horizontal arrow for the crossbar. But before all that, in 1985, Michael Beirut was 27 years old and early in his career. |
| 1:00.2 | He was working at the firm founded by legendary designer Massimo Vignale. |
| 1:04.9 | One day, Michael was handed an assignment that seemed pretty straightforward. |
| 1:09.2 | The International Design Center of New York had two events coming up, and they wanted Michael |
| 1:14.0 | to create the invitations. |
| 1:16.1 | One was going to be an exhibition of what they thought of then say as avant-garde furniture, |
| 1:21.7 | dramatic-shaped chairs. |
| 1:24.1 | They could have, like, slender little feet that would terminate in bright colored teal |
| 1:28.9 | balls, you know, if you can picture that? |
| 1:31.2 | I don't know. |
| 1:32.7 | Then the other thing was a lecture by some scientists from NASA from the space program who were |
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