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Rob Sesternino, back with our exit interview.

And today we are going to be talking with Matt Williams, voted out of Survivor 49 in episode number four after a tribe swap, entering a long lineage of survivors screwed by the swap.

And that is what we'll talk about here today with Matt as we get into everything

from his adventure in Fiji. Of course, last night I had the Survivor No-It-alls with Stephen

and today I will be talking with from Survivor 44 Jamie Lynn Ruiz, a woman who got swapped

to another tribe, was able to make it through.

We'll talk to her about shots in the dark and so much more on today's new era recap.

Don't miss. Also this week, Kenny Huang is going to join me to talk about his friend in real life, Jason, who's playing on this season.

And if you missed it, I had a fun interview with Troisand on the old school interview for

last week.

And those old school interviews are pretty evergreen.

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