Executive Disorder (with Marc Short)

Hacks On Tap

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.8 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

This week, Axe and Heilemann are joined by Marc Short—former Chief of Staff to Vice President Mike Pence and Director of Legislative Affairs under President Trump—for a jam-packed conversation. From his front-row seat in the Trump administration, Short reflects on what feels like a political Groundhog Day: National Guard troops on the ground in California. He opens up about working with Stephen Miller, hints at what Mike Pence might have planned next, and weighs in on the future of the Republican brand in a post-Trump era. Plus, the Hacks take on the national debt, the GOP’s tug-of-war between cultural and economic messaging, Elon Musk’s latest pivots, and peek into the crystal ball for today’s primaries.

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0:00.0	Hey, pull up a chair. It's Hacks on Tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.
0:13.0	Some of the things you're reading about in Los Angeles, thank goodness we sent out some wonderful National Guard.
0:29.1	They've really helped, and a lot of problems they were having out there.
0:34.3	They were afraid to do anything, and we sent out the troops, and they've done a fantastic job.
0:40.4	So I want to thank them very much.
0:42.4	There you go, Heilman, President of the United States.
0:45.6	I don't know about you, but I was having 2024 kind of flashbacks watching this whole thing unfold.
0:57.3	What happened in, what happened in 2024 that made you?
1:00.9	I think you were flashing back to.
1:01.7	I have to have 20-20 flashbacks.
1:03.5	No, I agree as well.
1:05.4	There's that.
1:06.5	But, well, let's first bring in our guest.
1:10.4	Yeah, let's do that in our guest Mark short that
1:11.3	Mark Short's not the kind of guy who has flashbacks
1:13.9	like you know he said
1:14.9	I don't know about that I bet you that's wrong
1:17.4	I bet you we could do a whole show on his flashback
1:21.1	well I'm thinking more about the kind of flashbacks that I have
1:24.0	which usually involve more like you know well forget about that I don't want to hear
1:27.2	because they're chemically induced probably, but
1:29.9	a hundred percent.
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