EXCLUSIVE: WICKED SEQUEL STUMBLES, EFRON FAMILY DRAMA HITS DWTS, AND NORTH WEST RISES INTO THE SPOTLIGHT
Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter
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4.4 • 605 Ratings
🗓️ 20 November 2025
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
Despite critics panning Wicked For Good with a lackluster 71% Rotten Tomatoes score—far below the original’s 88%—its massive marketing blitz may still lure audiences into Oz. Behind the scenes at Dancing With the Stars, Dylan Efron reportedly urged brother Zac to avoid the audience early in the season. Meanwhile, 12-year-old North West is strutting confidently into the Kardashian spotlight, undeterred by online backlash as she launches her own rising-era persona.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, welcome to the naughty but nice show. |
| 0:18.5 | I'm your hair, Sir Rob Shooter, and it is Thursday, Thursday, which means our dear friend, Mark Lupeau joins us. Hey, Loopy, are you there? |
| 0:25.9 | Loopi Lou's here. Hey, Rob. Hey, Louie Lou, we've got a lot of gossip to get to today. So let's jump right in. What time is it, my friends? It is. Tea time. Okay, big story at the top of the show. |
| 0:38.9 | This breaks my heart, but Wicked for Good has bombed with the critics. |
| 0:44.3 | And now the studio are a little bit worried about it. |
| 0:48.4 | So is the magic fading in ours, well at least? |
| 0:52.3 | It is if you ask the critics. Wicked for good, the blockbuster |
| 0:56.7 | sequel to Last Year smash it, Wicked, which I loved, has stumbled out of the gate with just |
| 1:02.1 | a surprising 71% on Rotten Tomatoes. Rotten Tomatoes has become a really, really important site. |
| 1:09.9 | It really gives you a good indication of what's going to happen with the movie. |
| 1:13.9 | Now, just to put this into some perspective, we love doing that on this show. |
| 1:17.3 | The original, the original movie, got 88% of Rotten Tomatoes and went on to be monstrous. |
| 1:23.8 | So 71% if I was still at Dartmouth High School in Great Bar, England, in Great |
| 1:29.8 | Bar, if I got 71, I'd be thrilled. However, it's not 88%. So what do you think here, Mark? What's going on? |
| 1:39.6 | It hasn't even been released yet. It doesn't come out till Thursday, but the studio tonight, he comes |
| 1:45.1 | out tonight, the studio is a little nervous. |
| 1:48.0 | I can understand that. And I think, listen, if you saw the play, you know the second act |
| 1:52.6 | of the play is not as strong as the first act. And the second act features more of the Glinda's |
| 1:58.2 | character. So we'll see more of Arana Grande, which I'm kind of excited to see her acting |
| 2:02.2 | and taking the lead spot in this movie. |
| 2:05.3 | You know, listen, five hours of Wicked is a lot for any person. |
| 2:09.5 | You know, I would... |
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