Exclusive: Trump considering pulling out of NATO & new Russian drone skewers Ukrainian aircraft in mid-air
Ukraine: The Latest
Louisa Wells / Francis Dearnley
4.8 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Day 1,497.
Today, as The Telegraph publishes an exclusive interview with Donald Trump in which he threatens to withdraw the United States from NATO, we examine the potential consequences for European security and Ukraine’s defence against Russia’s invasion. We also analyse dramatic footage of new Russian “jousting” drones reportedly being deployed on the battlefield, before looking at Vladimir Putin’s latest appeal to Russia’s billionaire oligarchs to help sustain the country’s wartime economy. And later, we reflect on the 40th anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster and the enduring legacy of the nuclear catastrophe that still shapes Ukraine’s environmental and security landscape.
Contributors:
Francis Dearnley (Host on Ukraine: The Latest). @FrancisDearnley on X.
Connor Stringer (Washington Correspondent). @connor_stringer on X.
James Kilner (Russia Analyst). @Jkjourno on X.
With thanks to Dr Sasha Dovzhyk.
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Trump interview: I am strongly considering pulling out of Nato (Connor Stringer in The Telegraph).
Russian drone skewers Ukrainian aircraft in mid-air (The Telegraph):
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph. I'm Francis Dernley and this is Ukraine, the latest. Today, as the |
| 0:13.8 | telegraph has an exclusive interview with President Trump, where he threatens to pull the US out of NATO, |
| 0:19.7 | we consider the consequences for European and Ukrainian defence. |
| 0:23.9 | Then we assess dramatic footage of new jousting Russian drones in action |
| 0:28.7 | before hearing about Putin's latest appeal to his billionaire club of oligarchs |
| 0:33.8 | in the hope they'll keep his war economy afloat. |
| 0:36.9 | Then we reflect on the 40th anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster this month and the legacy of an environmental crisis which still casts a long shadow over Ukraine. |
| 0:48.3 | Bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory. |
| 0:58.3 | The Russia does not want peace. |
| 1:00.1 | First, we're fighting, with our help for the Ukraine, |
| 1:03.5 | also our freedom and our European values. |
| 1:08.8 | If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours. |
| 1:12.7 | We are with you, not just today or tomorrow, but for a hundred years. |
| 1:17.7 | We can't as European, let's be gained the Russia in Ukraine. |
| 1:22.1 | Nobody's going to break us. We're strong. We're Ukrainians. |
| 1:27.1 | It's Wednesday, the 1st of April, four years and 36 days |
| 1:31.4 | since the full-scale invasion began. And today I'm joined by our Washington correspondent, Connor |
| 1:36.2 | Stringer, dialing in fresh from his conversation with the American president, our Russia |
| 1:40.1 | analyst, James Kilner, and in the studio here in London, Dr. Sasha D'Arcic. |
| 1:45.2 | Let's start, though, with that major scoop. |
| 1:47.9 | Two weeks ago, Dom asked President Alexander Stubb of Finland at Chatham House |
| 1:52.2 | when the reluctance of European powers to support President Trump in Iran would become a NATO problem. |
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