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Exclusive: TikTok’s CEO on the App’s Future in the U.S.

The Journal.

The Wall Street Journal

Business News, Daily News, News

4.25.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2023

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew is due to testify before Congress this week, as the Biden administration demands that TikTok’s Chinese owners sell their stakes in the company or face a possible U.S. ban of the app. In this exclusive interview with WSJ’s Stu Woo, the TikTok CEO said a sale won’t solve Washington’s security concerns. Further Reading: - TikTok CEO’s Message to Washington: A Sale Won’t Solve Security Concerns Further Listening: - How TikTok Became the World’s Favorite App - What’s Up With All the TikTok Bans? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Last week, our colleague Stu Wu landed a big interview with the CEO of TikTok.

0:11.2

It was a big deal. I mean, it's done very few interviews since he became CEO two years

0:19.0

ago. And TikTok's CEO showed you. Looked a part of a tech guy. He was wearing, I guess,

0:26.4

modern 40-year-old tech CEO uniform. It was like a plain white t-shirt. It was a little bit

0:31.1

oversized, but with a close-fitting blazer on top and jeans and sneakers.

0:37.7

Going into the interview, there was one thing that Stu really wanted to ask about.

0:43.2

So you sit down with him. It's a big and important interview. And one of your first questions

0:47.9

for him was about Quail? The Quail, okay. A lot of people don't know this, but show is

0:54.5

not Chinese. He's Singaporean. The reason Stu wanted to ask about the Quail is because

0:59.3

in Singapore, men have to serve a stint in the military. And Stu's heard stories about

1:04.0

what that's like. Yeah, I had a college classmate from Singapore and he said at the end of military

1:09.7

training, survival training, you're like starving in the jungle for five days. They give

1:14.1

you a live quail. What my college classmate did was he killed it with his bare hands,

1:18.0

skinned it, and then cooked it and ate it. So I wanted to know what show the TikTok CEO

1:23.5

did in the same situation. And how did the answer? He didn't seem to want to directly

1:31.6

address it. What did you do with the Quail? Yeah, this is to get a batch. If you've finished

1:36.8

the course, you get a batch. If you don't finish it, if you fail the course, you don't get

1:39.6

this. And I didn't want to spend too much of the hour trying to figure out whether

1:43.0

he had killed that Quail or not. But show did talk about the survival training. They

1:51.0

leave you in a swampy area for five days. You're supposed to survive. You supposed to

1:55.6

build your own hut. You supposed to find food, which is very difficult. At the end of

2:01.4

five days, you gather with a group of four or five people and then you begin like a 90

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